But to know Dare I say at the risk of starting another mask debate, a $30 organic mask can't hurt, some live in the fumes without any problems and some get a sniff of spray and get warm fuzzy or thumping headaches, so ill just say can it hurt to wear one? How To Airbrush Tamiya Acrylic Paint. Add 2-3 drops of paint to the airbrush cup. I have to use a little more of it than with the Testors stuff. I will be getting a proper resperator before i spray enamel. Otherwise, it will no longer be active. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. And what thinner I could use. A good starting point is 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner and adjust as required. I use 15 psi for gloss finish, 20 for flats. I might thin a little more for finer detail painting. Airbrush acrylic paint is the most commonly used medium preferred by artists. The following article will advise you on how you can use enamel paint with an airbrush. And yes, practice with what you plan to use. Use a ratio of 3:1 paint to thinners mix to start with, and do a test spray. In order to achieve such outcomes. I have very limited space but have sliding window in my shop room. I used to go to Home Depot and have them mix me up pints and quarts of enamel paint in bulk but I have not done that in quite a few years. Adding the Paint—Finally: For average airbrushing jobs, I dilute Vallejo Model Air (not Vallejo Model Color) and LifeColor to roughly ~30% or ~1/3 paint in the appropriate Thinner-Liquitex mix. 747 586. As thinner I use Gum Turpentine from Home Depot (med. But most Enamel Paints are a little to thick to be used with … Thinning Enamel Paint: With a List of Thinners That Work. Chris I used to use Testors thinner for airbrushing, mineral spirits for cleanup. Member since September 2010; From: California ; Thinning Mig paints for airbrush. • Add 1/2 pint of Majic Catalyst Hardener to each gallon of paint (16:1). View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. Mixing the right consistency is vital for the airbrush and paint to work together. This is where a little trial and error comes in, but once you work it out it becomes second nature. If you are going to use oil-based paints, start by adding a small amount of thinner. Enamel paint is a substance that has been available for many years, the technology for which has progressed significantly. Hey mick, I headed your comment in my safty thread. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. Don, what's your reason for using a different PSI for flats as opposed to glos. There is no hard and fast rule, but the usual consensus is to thin to the consistency of 2% milk. Airbrush Paint Mixing. I'm using a 155 anthem btw. I'm a long time modeler but new to airbrushing. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Tamiya acrylic ranges from 1:1 to 2:1 thinner-to-paint depending on the airbrush, the age of the paint, etc. Now i saw in this forum that enamel colors need to be thinned with thinner(i have color mix from revell), but i don't know exactly how much is needed in order to paint the body, and how to mix them with thinner. You're looking for something around milk. Not ours. Clean brushes and equipment immediately after use with the solvent or thinner recommended in the Technical Data chart for each system. Same for the PSI as well. There's really no set ratio, though some are likely to siggest various ratios to you. I use muffin fans (brushless) in my booths for that reason. Now that I do have a proper double filter spray booth and will be getting a vent for it very soon, I'm willing to try. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. I also lube my airbrush needle, which may help as well. Having the means to control air flow via a pressure regulator will help fine tune the operation. First of all, when mixing epoxy resin, you should be aware that the resin can have different mixing ratios depending on the manufacturer. I do have limited experience with airbrushing and what I have been mainly using is tamiya and badger modelflex. I will not go out without a helmet. My current airbrush is an Iwata with a 0.5 mm nozzle and it sprays perfectly well with this ratio of thinning, and sometimes I’ll go a little heavier with the thinners to perhaps so 1.5:1 paint to thinners ratio at very low pressures; I'm not lecturing or criticizing, just suggesting, please take it as such. If required, it can take a LOT more thinning than that, like outlining camo or spot spraying. Air and water propel the paint. For more photos of my kits, visit my photo blog:http://vegeta8259.blogspot.com/vegeta8259's random ramblings on Twitter:https://twitter.com/vegeta8259 What about air pressure? For some applications where I want better coverage, I might use 40% paint. Without thinning, clogging occurs. Posted by mikeymize on Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:51 PM I'm spraybrushing Mig Ammo paints for the first time and would like to know whether I can use the Vallejo thinner or should I use the Ammo type … MM enamel seems very adaptable to any of my equipment. ( 2 or 3 drops thinner to 10 drops paint) and your done. Simply add the thinner to your paint, mix to the recommended ratio os 20 to 30% to 1. I completely agree with all the above, for MM enamel I start with about 1;3 thinner to paint ratio, then doctor it as I go to meet my specific needs. Any external mix 'brush and acrylics will have this to deal with. However, most Enamel Paints can be a bit thick to be used with an airbrush immediately, so it needs to be thinned. “Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”. Thanks! Different colors can require varying amounts of thinner, and I use anywhere from 60-80% paint. BondoKing. I don't know how great the risk actually is - I suspect not very, but I claim no authority on this. You should proceed very carefully, because an extremely small amount is usually enough to make a big difference. Richie Exceptions are noted in the Technical Data charts, separate literature and labels. However, a mix of ~30% paint … sized can)which also produces an excellent artist oil paint wash. Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!! However, for mixing latex paints, a general rule of thumb is mixing 1/4 cup of water for every 1 gallon of paint. Any recommendation would be appreciated,as i am really happy to start building the model. I want to have the same level of safty with this hobby. • Use Majic Tractor, Truck, & Implement Enamel. I'll echo Tojo, I use the eyeball method. another thought I have is to practice abing, would it be a good idea to pick up a bottle of artist airbrush paint such as golden to get the hand of the basics? To participate you must either login or register for an account. Mix thoroughly. I wonder How is the thining ratio for the enamel paint to use it with an airbrush. You will not want your material to be too small or over-diluted. 4 years ago. I finally built a dryer box, heated by a 60 W incandescent bulb. They all seem to have a disclaimer not to use flammable paints. Our community is FREE to join. Why do I suggest the above ratio? Enamel paints have a smooth, professional surface after varnish after drying and often give a very good result with an airbrush. Post 11:44 PM - Oct 30 #2 2020-10-30T23:44. The amount of PSI and the amount of trigger pull and paint reaction is different with different paints.Also paint behaves diffrently on paper then model plastic.So I don't know how much it will help. It is often used for painting miniatures and plastic models. I use Thayer and Chandler airbrushes, and for general coverage I usually start with a 3:1 ratio (3 parts paint to 1 part thinner), I spray at around 15 psi, and about 3 - 4" from the model's surface. Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. View our, Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. That's about what you want. As far as practice,I say practice with what you plan to use,not something different.Every paint acts different. Seems that it is 6-8-1 but I'm not sure. P_Budzik. A general rule of thumb is to thin your paint down to the consistency of milk. if it really is too thin even for that add a drop or two and mix then should be right! If you don't know how to judge that, pour a little into a glass and swirl it around. Airbrushing paint with all the variability involved can never be an exact science, but practice practice practice with what you have, if thrown a curve ball by a new jar of paint, watch the ball and then hit a homer. Because my friend forgot to bought … I understand that their recommended ratios are 1:3 and 2:3; would it be safe to assume that this is optimal for basic coverage? For best results Tamiya acrylic paint should be thinned with Tamiya acrylic thinners to a ratio of approximately 1:1, and airbrushed at the lowest possible air pressure setting that gives proper paint atomisation and coverage. And if you're used to mixing your own colors, it is my first choice. After reading this article, you will know which thinners to use with Enamel Paints and which should not be used, or how the results will be. One thing to realize is that air brushing is a balance between paint, thinner and air pressure. Just want to also add that the paint needs to be more thinned if one is spraying (1) on a lower pressure or (2) using a smaller needle. Ditto on the above comments, practice with the paint you intend to use on a old model. Thanks Top. If required, it can take a LOT more thinning than that, like outlining camo or spot spraying. The rubbing alcohol should easily be found in most crafts stores and Walmart. I then mix the Tamiya paint 50/50 with the thinner/retarder mixture. The reason why I say there's no set ratio is simply that paint  viscosity can vary from one colour to another within the same manufacturer's range, even between jars of the same colour from different production batches. I'm just getting started airbrushing - I bought a Paasche VLS set and a Kalmbach book on airbrushing but I can't find any references to the ratio of paint to thinner when mixing paint for use. Enamel paints have a very smooth, professional finish once they are dry and they are most often used with an airbrush. But that ratio sounds about right. So, to summarise, a "milk like" consistency will put you on the field and then you might need to fine-tune to find what's ideal for you. If you start with paint, the paint might get into the airbrush tube which could clog the brush or make it harder to clean. how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " There are many different types of paint that can be sprayed through an airbrush. Order Ascending; Order Descending; mikeymize. Once the mixture is stirred well, pour it into a clean paint can, and close the lid to keep the paint fresh. The question is can you use enamel paint with an airbrush? Well I need it and I have lost the mix ratio. This has eliminated tip try for me. A good starting point is 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner and adjust as required. I planned on using this for touch up and repair if needed. Avoid painting when relative humidity is above 85% or during periods of rain, fog, or snow. Personally, I like to run my Tamiya paints very thin, moreso than other s here, but that's what I'm used to and I'm sure others might have difficulty in using the same mix that I do. I am a novice and just purchased an air brush for diecast car restorations. Acrylic paints dry quickly, are easy to clean and have no odors. Thinned paint is paint that is starting to bind, and you will only ruin your paint. I completely agree with all the above, for MM enamel I start with about 1;3 thinner to paint ratio, then doctor it as I go to meet my specific needs. Thinning Mig paints for airbrush. That's good, as I said it can't hurt, another thing it's good for is when using Mr Muscle, that stuff burns if you inhale any. Hello, a friend of mine brought me some Railmatch enamel colours on his last visit to the United Kingdom. Simply put, enamels are designed to achieve a durable, shiny finish once cured. Practice, practice, practice is required to become proficient at air brushing, and I encourage you to practice on a model, rather than on paper or cardboard. Our community is FREE to join. For example, if one is using 20-30psi and a Badger Patriot with the 5mm needle, not having accurate thinning isn't as a big of  a deal as using 6-10psi and a Badger Velocity with the 2mm needle. I am looking at giving enamel paint a shot. The required consistency may also vary depending on your equipment setup and your own individual painting style. 6 replies. Gloss enamel takes a long time to dry. The paint seems to go on a bit dryer, which seems to make it look flatter. Thanks . On occasion I find that the 3>2 isn't quite thin enough & required slightly more thinner - but not much & it doesn't happen very often. I have a metallic blue which isnt available in the aerosol range. To mix into your airbrush cup, you should: Add 2-3 drops of water or thinner to the airbrush cup. I also set the AB at about 10-12 PSI. Best to all, good modeling. I do wish everyone good health, exposure to paint product fumes over the years can actually pose a significant risk, to perhaps some more than others. P_Budzik. Why Enamel Paint Must Be Thinned Before Application. It is better to approach the right color slowly. I don't know how great the risk actually is - I suspect not very, but I claim no authority on this. Paper and cardboard are fine for learning how to control the paint flow, so you can spray thin or tapered lines, but paper is absorbent and flat, and styrene is not! I've got a 1/2 gallon of ppg delstar I had mixed along with the paint I used to paint my truck. Just about any primer works with enamel as well when or if you need one, enamel will stick to plastic very well without a primer which is handy at times. T he question of whether or not you can use enamel paint in an airbrush is often raised, particularly as enamel paints are known for being durable and for having a glossy finish. Booths with brushless motors do not have this problem. Remember that thinner works more aggressively as compared to water. Enamel paints have been on the market for many years and in that time have seen significant improvements. I use not only an actual spray booth with filter and fan exhaust, but as well, an exterior discharge 4 inch hose that is positively sealed at vent port in window frame. I use mainly Tamiya Acrylic paints and I have a small compressor with a regulator. "-George Washington, By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. I start thinning at 1:1, then add one or the other as I begin spraying if need be. Add reducer to a separate measuring cup; the ratio is 4:1 of paint to reducer. Changing one part will affect the others and you will always need to be ready to compensate "as required". Airbrush paints are mixed together to create color gradations and transitions. Is it worth using golden to learn the basic airbrush techniques? to be wise. Do you or anyone reading this have any recommendations. For reference I use mostly Badger and some Paasche AB's, primarily dual action internal mix, gravity and siphon feed. Below you will discover how to use enamel paint with your airbrush. Welcome to the world of airbrushing! For the final coat of a gloss finish I do use more thinner, as much as 1 part paint to 2 parts thinner. The paint I picked up is model master with a jar of their thinner. Tamiya's recommended 3 paint to 2 thinner works just fine for me - the rule of thumb seems to be to match the consistency of milk. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. The idea with using golden airbrush media is to help create mussle memory, shading solid color, dots, lines and other airbrush learning exercises on news print pads. Tip # 1: The correct Mixing Ratio. Enamel paints are great for painting a lot of different materials. As a refresher, Enamel paint is essentially a term that means: Hard & Glossy finish. Most paints designed for airbrushes do not need to be thinned, and are ready to be sprayed right out of the bottle. Alclad and Vallejo Model Air can be shot straight out of the bottle. My respirator has replaceable cartridges, available at about any auto body or safety supply store, quite inexpensive. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools When mixing tinlet enamel paint (in my case, Humbrol) is it correct to use a ratio of 1 part paint to 2 parts enamel thinners? "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace. I use MM a lot and have found that if I thin it more, then it produces a super smooth finish. I use enamels- usually Testors- exclusively. The nice thing about Tamiya Acrylics is how readily they can be removed with Windex (or other alcohol/ammonia based cleaner). If you don't want to use these, then buy some $1 store ammonia and mix it 50-50 with 91% isopropyl alcohol to flush-out your brush, then rinse with hot water. When comfortable with those basics then I'll practice modeling spray paddern with mm enamel. Enamel has kinda of been a little unnerving for me due to using mineral spirits to thin and clean. It's the same for me when I'm out cycling. Generally speaking, you want your paint to be abot the consistency of low-fat milk. Of course to each his own preference, but from my strictly personal feelings I most heartily agree with Snibs, about respiratory protection. But first, let’s go into detail as to why enamel paints must be thinned to the correct viscosity before use in an airbrush! for it. Airbrush Thinning Ratios In general when spraying paints through Aztek airbrushes, the paint should be the consistency of whole milk or thinner. Vallejo Model Color is much thicker than is Vallejo Model Air and requires diluting to ~10-15% paint. I use either cheap brake or carb cleaner in a spray can with the tube up the paint jar holder and spary it into a rag when I'm finished painting. Is there some reference material available somewhere to get me started on mixing the right proportions or is it all trial and error? Seems to me the finish is a bit rougher with the higher psi and resulting greater distance of airbrush from model. Many people are intimidated by airbrushing with enamel paints as acrylic is usually the go-to for beginners. Anybody out there know what it is? Allow it to sit approximately 20 minutes before using. I mix to about 60% Tamiya X20A thinner to 40% Winsor & Newton Galleria fluid retarder. All of the dilutions provided in this article pertain to Vallejo Model Air. A good starting point is 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner and adjust as required. Charles Spurgeon, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. BondoKing's Profile; E-mail BondoKing ; Top Contributor. All enamel paints are recognized for their glossy finish and durability. For reference I use mostly Badger and some Paasche AB's, primarily dual action internal mix, gravity and siphon feed. Probably the best enamel paint you can use is One Shot. It is easier to start too thick and add thinner, than it is to start too thin and add paint. Do not be tempted to put thinned paint back into the jar. There was a period when the Testors thinner was not easily available, and I learned to use the hardware store mineral spirits for thinning too. The ratio of thinner to paint naturally varies based on the paint. Do not to over thin flat Enamels, as they can turn to a gloss if over thinned. Use a 1:1 ratio and mix your rubbing alcohol and paint, then spray with the airbrush. Thanks. I ordering both shortly after the holiday. There is no hard and fast rule, but the usual consensus is to thin to the consistency of 2% milk. I have bought enamel colors and the basic airbrush+air pressured can with it. For gloss I like to get up close and really put on wet layers, which calls for a lower pressure and more needle. Another thing to check is your actual airbrush. Reply; Edit; emswife. I need a small indoor paint booth. The hardener will have a pot life of about 8 hours. In addition to the usual specifications of resin and hardener in a ratio of 1 : 1 or even 2 : 1, the manufacturer’s specifications sometimes also include much more complicated variants such as 100 : 45. Although the paint performs flawlessly straight from the bottle thinning it down with our Thinner / Reducer brings out the best. Larry. This method of thinning acrylic craft paint for airbrushing is very effective and affordable, as it only costs about 77 cents a bottle. 6681 views. Hi - I think the reference is to booths which use an extractor fan having an electric motor with conventional brushes (motor components, not brushes to paint with), which can cause sparks, potentially hazardous in the presence of paint/thinner fumes. Mission Models thinner is also your airbrush cleaner. Hi - I think the reference is to booths which use an extractor fan having an electric motor with conventional brushes (motor components, not brushes to paint with), which can cause sparks, potentially hazardous in the presence of paint/thinner fumes. Modelmaster is good stuff,very easy to use,good coverage.I don't use an exact ratio,I just eyeball it to the consistancy of skim milk.If I had to guess,I probably use 7-3 paint to thinner,but it's not an exact science.I shoot at 15-20 psi.8-10 for detailed camo. Booths with brushless motors do not have this problem. Do not put in too much in the beginner. Stir the mixture of paint and reducer with a stir stick. Don't let yourself be limited to just those though; there is a huge selection of paints that can be used once they're mixed with thinner/reducer. Can't speak for MM thinner with there paints but I use Humbrol paints mainly and found there thinner is great for cleaning but gp thinner is better for spraying, all the MM paints I have used have been great. If the paint is over thinned, the paint cannot be thickened. What I do is mix the thinner and retarder in a polyethylene dropper bottle. Sacrificing a cheap kit is much better than suffering the frustration of removing a bad paint job from a $50 kit. Never add thinner to the paint jar. I also find that if it is a tad thin, just build up the color rather than add more paint. 747 586. Different colors can require varying amounts of thinner, and I use anywhere from 60-80% paint. Once the amount of reducer is measured, add it to the paint. 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